[Exherbo-dev] Removing X drivers for obsolete hardware

William Orr will at worrbase.com
Tue Apr 23 16:13:10 UTC 2013


> Ivan Lazar Miljenovic <mailto:ivan.miljenovic at gmail.com>
> April 20, 2013 2:03 AM
> On 20 April 2013 07:27, Paul Seidler<sepek at exherbo.org>  wrote:
>> David Leverton<dleverton at exherbo.org>  wrote:
>>> Paul Seidler wrote:
>>>> Here is the list of the broken ones:
>>>> xf86-video-dummy
>>> Not sure what this is for, but it's probably not "obsolete hardware".
>>>
>>>> xf86-video-fbdev
>>>> xf86-video-vesa
>>> These might be useful as fallbacks when a more sophisticated driver
>>> isn't available/working.
>>>
>>>> xf86-video-vmware
>>> Presumably useful for VMware users.
>> I was also writing about unneeded drivers. Yes, I didn't mentioned it
>> in the subject …
>> I'm aware of the possible use-cases the question is, if somebody really
>> is interested in these. *I* would no more use a X-Server with fbdev/vesa
>> nor exherbo in a VirtualBox.
>
> Isn't vesa still useful for the cases where a binary driver fails for
> some reason and you need a fallback?
>
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> Paul Seidler <mailto:sepek at exherbo.org>
> April 19, 2013 5:27 PM
>
> I was also writing about unneeded drivers. Yes, I didn't mentioned it
> in the subject …
> I'm aware of the possible use-cases the question is, if somebody really
> is interested in these. *I* would no more use a X-Server with fbdev/vesa
> nor exherbo in a VirtualBox.
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> David Leverton <mailto:dleverton at exherbo.org>
> April 19, 2013 4:45 PM
> Paul Seidler wrote:
>> Here is the list of the broken ones:
>
>> xf86-video-dummy
>
> Not sure what this is for, but it's probably not "obsolete hardware".
>
>> xf86-video-fbdev
>> xf86-video-vesa
>
> These might be useful as fallbacks when a more sophisticated driver 
> isn't available/working.
>
>> xf86-video-vmware
>
> Presumably useful for VMware users.
>
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> Paul Seidler <mailto:sepek at exherbo.org>
> April 19, 2013 3:07 PM
> A lot of drivers in the tree are incompatible with the latest stable
> xorg-server (0.14.1). I'm not really motivated to bump and test those
> drivers before the unmask because I think most of them are simply
> obsolete or unneeded.
>
> Here is the list of the broken ones:
> xf86-input-wacom
> xf86-video-apm
> xf86-video-ark
> xf86-video-ast
> xf86-video-chips
> xf86-video-dummy
> xf86-video-fbdev
> xf86-video-glint
> xf86-video-i128
> xf86-video-i740
> xf86-video-mach64
> xf86-video-mga
> xf86-video-openchrome
> xf86-video-neomagic
> xf86-video-newport
> xf86-video-r128
> xf86-video-rendition
> xf86-video-s3
> xf86-video-s3virge
> xf86-video-savage
> xf86-video-siliconmotion
> xf86-video-sis
> xf86-video-sisusb
> xf86-video-sunffb
> xf86-video-tdfx
> xf86-video-tga
> xf86-video-trident
> xf86-video-tseng
> xf86-video-vesa
> xf86-video-vmware
> xf86-video-voodoo
>
> Please let me know which one are still required or bump them
> yourself. I will unmask 1.14 next weekend and mask the remaining
> drivers as broken and remove them after a reasonable time.
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vesa definitely shouldn't be removed - people generally use it as the 
fallback driver when any of the binary ones don't work. The Nvidia 
documentation even specifically recommends it over the nv driver.

Also, I would recommend that xf86-video-nv be added to the list, as it's 
deprecated and not under active development anymore.
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